READING 4665-1
Chicago, Ill., this 8th day of March, 1928
1. [900]: You will have before you the gasless motor invented
by [4666].
2. EC: Yes, we have the body and enquiring mind of [4666], also
the associations and those conditions surrounding the
perfection of motor which will develop power in its own
action. As has been given, the idea and the plans as have
been worked out in part along those lines that pull more of
the power as produced in compression in drum, with the leads
made in these forms that gather vibrations from the air as is
forced through drum, are, as we find, the better application
of the created energy. In the cams [as] have been used too
much slack or play is allowed in their rotation. This is in
the drum's head action that these must be shortened in play.
3. The connection of [195] and [900] with same - best that these
have [4666]'s operations closer under their observations when
the completed product is near attained.
4. (Q) How may we bring him under our observation?
(A) Bring him to ..., Ohio or N.Y.
5. (Q) Is this machine the same as brought to Washington now by
Lindbergh? [Charles A. Lindbergh]
(A) No. As is here, the [4666] machine would operate on
stationary conditions impelling forces; even for now that in
gas motors - for, as tested by others, has more to do with
that thrown in air and gaining its impelling force from that
source.
6. (Q) Would it operate perpetually if perfected?
(A) Not perpetually, but once started could be kept in
motion by created energy of its own source. Other has to
have some source of impellation.
7. (Q) Would [4666]'s machine be good for airplane?
(A) Would be better than other - one that would start as
well as keep in motion. Pressure will be regulated by
altitude.
8. (Q) When ought this be finished?
(A) In seven or eight days when material is put in shape.
9. (Q) Who had we best see in Washington regarding this?
(A) Get in shape first, then go to those through whom [195]
has had associations regarding same and protecting rights of
same.
10. (Q) Mr. [900] and Mr. [195] have letter to Hoover's man.
Is he one to present it to?
(A) This very good - very effectual.
11. (Q) It was given from here that Clinton gave information to
[4666]. [4666-1, Par. 10-A?].
(A) DeWitt Clinton. Judge [George?] DeWitt Clinton, former
governor of New York.
12. (Q) How many times will this machine whirl a ten foot
propeller per minute?
(A) Sufficient to keep same going in air. Stationary engine
that would and could be raised to 160 horse power or
increased in build and in drum to almost infinite power.
13. (Q) How much would a machine equal to four hundred horse
power weigh?
(A) Two hundred - three hundred - pounds.
14. (Q) How many times would it whirl a ten foot propeller?
(A) Forty-six hundred times a minute.
15. (Q) Any other advice you would give to [4666] concerning
construction of machine or anything you would give to us
regarding same?
(A) In this relation might be considered first, to [4666],
that there must be perfect cooperation of the self and the
will with those who would assist in perfecting this from the
material side. Also there must be perfect cooperation with
inner self to obtain that information that would give self
knowledge to apply same in connection with cosmic relation.
For force is one and in obtaining proper relation of energies
as set forth and released, these must coordinate.
READING 4665-2
Chicago, Ill., this 9th day of March, 1928
1. [900]: [4666]'s telegram states that "new leads and a new
drum of enlarged size must be manufactured before machine
will work. Will this be necessary? Will the machine run and
develop power? Should slack or play be taken up in the cams
as given in yesterday's reading? Can this type of fuelless
motor be manufactured and put on market at this time, or
require too much experiment?"
2. EC: Yes, we have the body and the machine as is being
builded by [4666]. [See 4665-1.] As given, the corrections
need to be made in the leads for the better operation of
same. With these new changes the drum would necessarily need
changing or reconstruction of same. This do, with little
changes. Always best that [4666], as this is builded, be
close under observation of those who would assist in the
development of machine, and while the various tests are being
made for the perfecting and balancing of same. Do that.
3. Then, a new enlarged drum - not necessarily larger but new,
but cams changed as outlined and leads with various sprangles
made so charges give the proper connections. Cams changed so
that there is not so much play in their rotation.
4. (Q) Will this type motor in time revolutionize the motive
power in the world?
(A) The feasibility of the machine, as given, is along
correct lines. With the revolution this machine will create
as a motive power, necessarily much experimentation is
necessary, with first the completion of the machine so that
the demonstration is satisfactory. Let it furnish, when
finished, the nucleus for further experimentation. This
should, under supervision of one that keeps [4666] in line,
be done in a few weeks.
5. (Q) Would it be well for [195] to go to Birmingham and bring
[4666] back to ..., Ohio with him? If so, when best for
[195] to go?
(A) Let's get the machine built first!
6. (Q) How had [195] best address or take care of Mrs. [1010]
in this matter?
(A) After [4666] has been made aware of [195)'s association
with the development of the motive power, she [Mrs. [1010]]
must be satisfied as to the sincerity of purpose in those
that would assist [4666].
7. (Q) Regarding [257] -
(A) [Interrupting] Well to consider such an one, for
through these sources much aid, help may be had for
experimentation or development, or in market for connections
this body has with many that maintain experimental labs, this
in itself would be a motive, considering all things and the
friendship and all.
8. We are through for the present.
READING 4665-3
this 28th day of March, 1928
1. GC: You will have before you the body and the enquiring mind
of [195] of the ... Hotel, New York City, and the association
as is being formed for the development of the [4666] Motor,
and the marketing thereof. You will answer the questions
which I will ask you regarding same.
2. EC: Yes, we have the body, the enquiring mind, [195].
This we have had here before, also those associations
as respecting the development, the marketing and the
perfecting of the [4666] Motor. Ready for questions.
3. (Q) The following claim for securing a basic patent has
been evolved: "Means of generating power within itself by
relationship between water or other liquids, and vacuum or
contained air or contained gas - or relationship between
liquids and other properties with less specific gravity
than the liquid." Or, would it be better to say, "Means
of generating power within self by a virtue of relationship
of liquid to some other substance either uncontained or
contained that has the less specific gravity than the
liquid." You will correct this in such a way that a basic
patent could be secured. Or give a better clause for basic
patent on [4666] Motor.
(A) That as given in the last presentation would be correct
in the way to present same for the basic patent; that is,
that means of generating power within self through the
relationship of that given between specific gravity of liquid
or other chemicals with other materials, with that of water,
in or through container, see? or that as last presented
would be the proper manner for presentation for basic patent.
In the make-up of the new manner, or the new drum this we
find would be the proper proportions for the drum: Eleven
inches (11") in diameter, and thirty-four inches (34") in
length, with the seven inch (7") eccentric; making the leads
in the form of sprangles, and not so much looseness - but
sufficient for proper action in cams in end of drum. These
would be the proper proportions.
The steel drum will be more effective in giving off the
proper relationship between the chemicals, vacuum, and the
water, and will generate sufficient of the power to show the
practicality and the plausibility of the operation.
In considering those who would handle the proposition
properly in obtaining the basic patent for the association,
we would consider that one FIRST of Henry Rice Bell [BALL?]
as being the better, or the proper one to handle this
situation; for, while the associations of Bell with others
are such that there may be questions, yet IN the ABILITY OF
those considered, this one FAR surpasses the others!
4. (Q) Would the proposed set-up for the handling of the [4666]
Corporation be the proper way to handle same - 51% of stock
to be set aside for promoters - 17% of this 51% to go to
[4666] - 34% of the 51% to be divided equally between [195],
[900] and [137], who are furnishing the capital and time -
the 49% to be sold as promotion and to include that 9% that
is to be given to the people in Birmingham who have assisted
[4666] so far - each individual sharing in same according to
the amount invested. Or should [4666] be given 15% and the
36% be divided between [195], [900] and [137] and [257]? Or,
what would be the proper set-up?
(A) As has been given, the promoters - or those as are
conducting the development and the perfecting of the motor -
should retain the 51%, and that [4666] should have at least
15% to 17% of that stock. As given, [257] should not be
disregarded in the connection of being one of those IN on the
development of this motor, as has been given.
Correct, that
those who have assisted so far in the development be taken
care of in the proportion to the amount invested - as is
being sold for the promotion and for the development for the
corporation or motor. These should be the proper way to set
same up.
As to the divisions that each promoter should have, that
would be left with those; yet [4666] should receive that
INDIVIDUALLY equal to ANY of those held by other promoters,
and promoters should ever retain at least 51% of such stock.
5. We are through.
READING 195-51 M 44 (Realtor; Mfgr. of Auto Accessories)
this 7th day of April, 1928
1. GC: You will have before you the body and the enquiring mind
of [195] of ..., Ohio, also his association with [900],
[137], and [4666] in promotion of [4666] Motors. You will
interpret the dreams as I give them, and advise whether last
named dream is a warning as to procedure relative to any part
of [4666] incorporating, and, or patent application, and, or
any individual connected with the development, or in patent
procedure.
You will also advise whether the written theory
(that I hold now in my hand) for the reason of the working of
the [4666] Motor in opposition to the law of the Conservation
of Energy is correct. You will either add to this theory or
correct same. [See written theory in 195-51, Par. R2.]
2. EC: Yes, we have the body, the enquiring mind, [195] - this
we have had before.
3. In the physical, it would be well for the body to use
the inhalant as has been given, for clarification of
conditions affecting the mucus membranes of nostrils and
throat. Do this. [See 195-39 on 1/17/27 advising inhalant
538-18 for Mr. [195].]
4. As for those conditions as given, or held here, respecting
the activity that is generated in the various forces as are
brought in that relativity of position and condition that
brings into play, or action, such elements or force - this
[is] the manifestation of ONE element of relativity of force.
Hence, as has been given, [in 4665-3, Par. 3-A] this may be
clarified with the addition of besprangled leads. [See
dictionary definition of these terms in Par. R1.]
5. In the conditions arising in the varied effects created,
these are in the general manner properly expressed or shown
in that as held here.
6. As for dreams, and the interpretation - ready for same.
7. (Q) On or about March 20 - 28 - at ..., Ohio. Dreamed that
I was exercising in Kansas City. Walking up and down beside
train taking me from Los Angeles to Chicago. I realized that
I had left my overcoat in station and started for it when
thought came to me that train might start. As I stood there
undecided, the train started rapidly and I started running
for vestibule. I couldn't make headway (as is customary in
dreams) and I seemed to say to myself, this is only a dream
as I can't run. With that thought I was released and ran
easily and caught the train.
(A) Here we have emblematically presented to the body those
conditions as respecting trains, and losses, and
recuperations, and the various effects as are created by
the understanding of the relation between dream and that
presented, or represented, or given to the body for use with
same. Here we find a definite place - Kansas City, the
center or head from which radiates certain railroads that are
to be in various combines, and through the activity of the
entity there may be gained - or the information may be used
by the entity or body to gain for self those of mercenary
conditions that will add to the abilities of the entity to
accomplish many of the things as have been set forth by the
entity to be gained through same. Do that, and use same in
that manner.
8. (Q) Friday night or Saturday morning - early hours March
31st, on train between N.Y. and Washington, D.C. Dreamed I
was in my apartment in ..., Ohio. My partner was crawling on
the floor trying to get away from burglars.
With that
feeling of burglars present I then seemed to be in a sleeping
car berth and again bandits were on train going through
coaches and looting travelers. The bandit was arguing with
some woman near my berth, so I hid my purse - then woke up.
(A) Here we have the warning to the entity regarding those
conditions surrounding that the entity entertaining the idea
of launching or presenting, see? There are many elements
entering in, as is seen in the various forms of banditry, and
of those that are presented. These, as have been given -
well that the conditions be kept well under the supervision,
advice, control and action of the body, as respecting the
motor, until completed and preparations are made to handle or
dispose of same, see?
9. (Q) I am holding explanation of working of [4666] Motor.
[See 195-51, Par. R2.] You will correct this or add to it,
so that on demonstration of motor in patent office the theory
of why the machine works may be given in an intelligent way.
(A) This, as has been given, is the proper explanation, in
the general way, of that taking place in the operation of the
motor.
Hence that as has been given as may be added to make
this more perfect in operation, but that relativity of force
as is generated by the air, water, or the varied conditions
existing between the action of the two, in the manner as
presented, is the proper explanation, and - may be seen - a
WORKABLE condition. We are through.
READING 4665-4
this 21st day of April, 1928
1. [900]: You will have before you the body and the enquiring
mind of [195], who is working in cooperation with [4666] in
..., Ohio, on the [4666] Motor. You will have before you
the patent attorneys in Washington, D.C. who may be fitted
to handle this patent [See 4665-4, Par. B2]. The first
question you will answer regarding this is as follows: Is
it expedient to build two motors at this time?
One size as
already given by the forces from here, and another size to
be a smaller size and used as a working motor at the patent
office as per rules for this class of machine. If the
small size should be built to gain a patent, and to use
to demonstrate to the patent attorneys to the committee in
Washington, what size motor should be used and how small
amount of power should be generated? Would two inch
eccentric throw and leads eight inches wide generate
power enough to turn the motor on? What are approximate
dimensions of small size motor that would work?
3. It becomes necessary, as given, for a model to be presented
for application of patent on such machinery. The size
does not make a great deal of difference, so the same ratio
or proportions are kept for that outlined.
The variation
in the specific gravity of chemical and other ingredients
through which the leads gain their control from combustion as
produced through activity of that change taking place in the
matter - these will operate under this same ratio, so the
size as has been outlined or considered with the leads, with
the eccentric, if the size as given will operate. These
will generate sufficient power to thoroughly demonstrate the
plausibility and practicability of the motor, built in that
way and manner.
4. In the presenting of same for patent, there has been given
the best one to consider same and to secure same. These -
through connections and changes - have not been as seriously
considered as they should have been. Those with and through
whom [195] has operated would prove just as liable to forego
the proper action, and more so than the others.
5. (Q) Stick to Ball then? [Henry Rice BEll? See 4665-3, Par.
3-A.]
(A) Stick to Ball, if the proper consideration would
be gained for the proper development, the proper
consideration, of this motor.
6. (Q) A two inch eccentric and eight inch leads will prove
proper dimensions for the smaller model?
(A) This as given.
7. (Q) Any further suggestions that might aid [195] and [4666]
in specifically manufacturing and demonstrating this machine?
(A) Build the model on the same lines as has been outlined
for the larger motor, and - as given - only necessary
that sufficient experimentation be made to give the proper
reaction for the work of the motor.
Be careful of the cams
and the leads. These are the centers from which generation
and activity toward the eccentrics operate.
Do that.
8. We are through with this reading.
READING 4665-5
this 22nd day of May, 1928
1. GC: You will have before you the [4666] Motor - which has
been completed and does not function - at ... St., ..., Ohio.
Please advise what is wrong, and answer the questions which I
ask you regarding same.
2. EC: Not much motor as yet! There are some hindrances with
the way the leads pick up the change in vibration as set
forth by the action of chemical gravitation. The fault does
not lie in the eccentric, as has been thought. Rather in the
variation of the space as is allowed between ends of leads
and the directions in which same are set. Be patient.
Do not jump too quick at conclusions, for the principle IS
correct, and [4666] - and [195] - BOTH - will be guided to
the necessary changes or alterations as they persist in
TINKERING, as it were, with the variations in leads, cams,
cam shaft, and eccentric. Ready for questions.
3. (Q) Are the bearings too tight?
(A) These may be loosened, and will assist - but the
troubles, as given, lie mostly in the leads and directions.
4. (Q) How should these be fixed?
(A) Fixed in the right proportion to the amount of the
difference between the gravity of those chemicals and water
as used in tank.
Change these to the variations of this
condition and we will find these will work. Persistence with
these. Do not expect to be handed right off without using
some discretion, also following - as has been given - those
outlines as will be presented to them. Look for them - seek
for them - and gain them - through the sources as have been
outlined. We are through.
READING 4665-6
this 4th day of June, 1928
1. GC: You will have before you the body and the enquiring mind
of [195] and the revised drawing made by him now on drawing
table at ... St., ..., Ohio, showing the new relative
position of cam, leads, lead ties, and sprangle slots
for small working model [4666] Motor. You will answer
questions concerning the new drawings as I ask them.
2. EC: We have the body, the enquiring mind, with those
drawings or outlines as indicate that these are nearer in
keeping with those changes as have been suggested regarding
leads, angles, and cams.
These, as we find, with that
necessary change in the angles as come in changing - that
is, the IDEA through which the influence of conditions act
with this - these should operate properly. It will not be
necessary to change the size of the container or tank. The
angles are better than have been presented before. Ready for
questions.
3. (Q) Is angle A.B.C. of lead tie too obtuse?
(A) Not too obtuse, no. The sprangles will be necessary
to work with, or to change as the gravity shows in
position, see? but these may be done easily.
4. (Q) Is angle M.C.D. being pitch of sprangle slot correct?
(A) Correct. We would BUILD it along these lines, keeping
this same principle as has been given is correct. Necessary
that some experimentation in the various ends of sprangles be
made. Other than this, the drawings - as we see - would make
the operating machine.
5. (Q) Will small motor using present relative sizes and
pitches, as outlined in drawing, work?
(A) Should work.
6. (Q) Will model have to be made larger to work?
(A) No. The relative positions - the relative conditions
are correct.
7. We are through with this reading.
READING 4665-7
this 5th day of July, 1928
1. GC: You will have before you body and enquiring mind of
[195], also assembled [4666] working model motor, and a
larger sized drawing for motor, all in 2nd floor apartment,
... St., ..., Ohio. You will answer the questions I will ask
you regarding this.
2. EC: Yes, we have the body, the enquiring mind, [195] - this
we have had before. Also the working model of [4666] motor
and drawings appertaining to a larger motor.
Portions of
this model or drawing we have had before. Ready for
questions, for there may be much said concerning this smaller
working model. The changes as we find necessary for the
complete perfection or operation would only be in the ability
to make the bearings in the cam work in a smooth manner
without using that in lubrication that would prevent the
action of the force as supplies the motive power, for the
leads and the sprangle are in proper proportion, and needs be
only changed in the direction from which the operative force
is attracted through same for perfection of the current in
fact. While in the larger drawing, as is indicated here on
board, provisions here are made for the bearings in a manner
by the enlarging of same, so that there will not be binding
in the model, or in the cam turn, as is seen in the smaller
model; yet the smaller model should be made to operate, yet
making the larger as indicated on drawing, and this giving
freer use of the active forces as are indicated in that as
has been given would facilitate matters, in that it would
give an easier access into making the necessary changes in
the leads and their pertaining force with the active
principles in the operative force, and hence would be easier
for the individual to find that of the correct balance in the
manner of directing force through leads. Ready for
questions.
3. (Q) The quarter inch roller bearings running in end of
eccentric drum seem too small. Do these do the binding?
What binds?
(A) As given in this, the turn of same binds - on account of
the manner of lubricant in the binding shaft or bearing (in
bearing) that causes the stop - when start and stop, see?
Now, as indicated, this will be found, or the correction may
be easily made in the larger model, for this will give
opportunity for the experimentation in the directing of
leads, for the length and the angle are near correct. As
given, these will of necessity need experimentation with
same. Forget not that in the operating the longitude and
latitude must be considered, or that direction north, east.
south and west, and the activities or principles that work
with the force that is producing, or inducing, the impelling
force for the motor proper. While this sensitiveness is
nominal in some directions, in specific gravity has its
effect. Hence these must be taken into consideration.
4. (Q) Are not the shafts and bearings attached to the reverse
sides of sprangle wheels in present model?
(A) Attached to reverse side.
5. (Q) End view drawing of a slightly larger sized motor is on
drawing board - with leads 12" wide - eccentric throw 5" -
eccentric drum diameter 8" - draw of sprangle 22".
Will motor this size and as drawn function?
(A) As has been indicated, and is indicated, those necessary
changes in the bearings and their operative force are
provided for in these drawings, as is seen in the length of
sprangle and of leads, and of its relation to the force or
the gravitation as is exercised in the operative forces of
the motor itself. This, as given - these indications as are
outlined - these differences as must be considered - should
give the enquiring mind of this body, [195], and of [4666]
(operative force IN same, or inception of same), that
necessary to produce, through their cooperative effort, that
model that would work to perfection; for the IDEA is proper,
and the activity of same only needs that experimentation,
with the direction, the angle, the changes in the specific
gravity as indicated of that used AS motive force, and of the
activities of the outer forces with same, to make this not an
experimentation, but a fact. We are through.
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